Altium designer 17 pricing11/14/2022 ![]() ![]() Personally I think the best thing for a country is that excellent engineers are paid more then their average managers and that society seeing them driving fancy cars and having a luxury live might finally bring more students for the technical education. But even then as mentioned in an other topic, the newly hired foreigners are lowering the overall salaries because there is more supply. Getting knowledge immigrants might be a short term answer but not a long term one unless they can stay and integrate 100%. The same is going on here but the saddest thing (i think personally) is that our countries can not find the right PhD students from our midst but that after they graduate their masters (or some unfortunately even before that) they start working in the industry. I'll dare to say that Universities are the best assets for any country, if you can keep them after they graduate. Sad thing is that US Universities were a great way to retain all the talent from all around the world within the US, now they pretty much encourage them to get back to their original countries. But if you are still in academia, take advantage of the cheap software, heck take advantage of the free credits you can get while being paid for doing so. Having been published helped a lot on jumping from academia to the "real" world. Only reason I left, the private industry paid triple. ![]() I do miss academia, flexible hours, free education, awesome hardware, cheap software and cool projects, long vacations, University research provides a fraction of overhead compared to the private industry and vendors keep on pushing their hardware/software for peanuts. I would think that's still the case but i'm not sure. They pretty much threw equipment, software and grants our way to persuade students to use their tech. We got major breaks on pricing for hardware as well. I miss being able to buy cheap software/hardware, I miss spring time with sun dresses all around, but I was single then, not anymore, but I really don't miss the measly paycheck I do recall one day someone walking with a bunch of tubes filled with dual ported 4ns VRAM (64MB worth of it) asking, "guess what I'm holding in here?" His answer was "a Ferrari Testarossa" and we got it for free from a research project for Toshiba IIRC. At least on the higher bandwidth part of things. Allegro as far as I know, is still the leader if you want to do anything in the GHz arena. I do believe we used a VMEBus and a 68000 based system, not sure if we were using OS9 or lynxOS but some kind of real time OS, it's 20 years ago so I don't really remember. We used Allegro to develop a 3GHz capable token ring fiber optic network for medical imaging with in house build hardware and software back in 93. I believe Cadence still have an educational track for only for qualified Universities. I don't recall how much we paid for allegro (Cadence) if anything, could have been free at the time, for example the cost per seat for a student for all the M$ software was only $10. Actually I was also part of the software purchasing committee. When I used to work as staff at UNI doing research (many moons ago when I was an IEEE and SPIE member as well) educational prices were available for all staff, faculty and students. Meaning you could be the janitor and still qualify AFAIK. Now they are just creeping back up and up againĮducational prices used to be available to not only students but also (reads: specially) to staff and faculty. It's funny, I can remember Nick Martin standing up in the front of the entire company when they slashed the price by 70% or something ($12K down to $3K?) and said "We are burning our bridges, there is no way we can go back to high priced software". They do everything they can to lock you into a subscription. Also, without paying subscription you don't get access to libraries now, but I could be wrong about that? Also, if you start subscription and then stop, and then want to take it up again in order to get some new release you like, you have to pay a big penalty, or the full amount again. Altium coped a lot of flack at one point for not releasing anything in the year people paid subscription, so their money was wasted. Or you pay an additional few $K each year for a "subscription" that keeps you updated with whatever they release in that time. You have to pay the $9K at first, and then either chose to pay nothing more and never get any update (even bug fixes last I checked), that's called a "perpetual license". ![]()
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